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Quote farmers boy 2 Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 7:35am
that looks like a great work horse, but i can not tell what it is please help !!!_popupControl();
Kim. He's not a newbie, just a well preserved secondhand model
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 11:46am
Hi Kim,my new toy is a Bungartz FRK with 8 hp Fichtel&Sachs Stamo 2-stroke petro air cooled engine, with its original rotary tiller and his 2 way plough included.Everything in good running condition. There is also a machine  to harvest potatos ( picture in the middle),i think this potato machine is home made, but i dont know this  for sure....Smile friendly greetings Tony.

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Quote Rotavator_man Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 1:57pm
nice machine, looks like a rival machine against the Howard 700 / Clifford, where was it found ? is it an original import ?

what are the rotor blades like ,sprung tines ? i take it is a rope start ?

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Quote farmers boy 2 Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:22pm
so whats the plan tony !! strip down and re paint or keep it as it is and use for work !!_popupControl();
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:40pm

Hi Kim ,its an original import and the rotor tiller is 65 cm wide (not with spring type of rotorblades ) its start with the rope. I dont have desided yet what i'm gone do with it, restore or use it, i have a modern Pasquali  and a Adriatica for my work in my garden and my buxus plantation so i think i wil restore it,strip it down, and repaint it like my other oldies. In Belgium British made walk behind tractors are very hard to find, almost all are German 2-stroke or 4-stroke diesel machines (bungartz,Hummel, Agria,Fahr,Holder and ofcorse Swiss Simars in the years '50, later came the Italian made machinery. For so far i know i'm i the only person here who owns a BMB Plowmate. I would love to have a Trusty,British Anzani and other British made machinery in my colection.Tongue The only other British made machinery are Qualcast-Atco lawnmowers Sorry for my poor English. Friendly greetings, Tony.



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Quote farmers boy 2 Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 6:05pm
your english is not so bad cos i can understand what it is your saying !!! is there much cost in importing machines, or can you just load up a trailer and go !!! cos you could soon make up your wish list form this country !!!_popupControl();
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 11:51am
i would love to have a friend in England who would keep me informed where there is something for sale in the future, in the maintime if this person is interested in french,Swiss or German walk behind tractors, i could keep him informed where or what came on for sale here in Belgium,ofcorse i could bring it to my location intill you have time to come and collect your machine.....................Just an idea.............friendly greetings,Tony.
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Quote pete0250 Replybullet Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:04am
Hi Tony, I have Trusties and bits but my friend has a fahr kt10d which he got in a Cambridegshire Machinery Auction. I would love one of these. . Been wondering about looking on the Continent for vintage stuff. Perhaps we can help each other. Regards
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 05 Dec 2009 at 8:49am
Tony, my interest would be in SIMAR Rototillers, I have models 5, 30, 35 and 56 but know there were a lot of other models available in Europe.
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 06 Dec 2009 at 11:54pm
Hi Pete and Charlie, ok guy i will look around and let you know if there something for sale here (Simars and a Fahr KT10D5) last i was on the phone with a guy from the Limburg (Belgium),about 160 km from my home and he said he would like to sell he's collection of unrestaurated walk behind tractors. He had a 2 Hummels DE52,1 Agria,2 Simars and a Holder for sale. The guy would'n not sell the tractors seperatly but all together in one. He asked 1000 euro for all the machines,but i didden't buy them,i don't have the place to stall them anymore!
Pete, i have a Fahr KT10D5,included his original 2-way plough and the original papers for driving it on the road 


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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2009 at 12:24am
Pete, i am looking now in france for a Chenillard....................and look what i have found, about 70 km from my home,lol issen't that a beauty ?
Its a Bernard chenillard BT2 from 1948, with the original papiers included !,in good shape and it work and runs very well.


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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2009 at 3:34pm
What a find, a real beauty.
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Quote hortiman Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2009 at 4:51pm
Hello Tony.
Is this little tractor designed for use in a Vineyard ?
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Quote crawler Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2009 at 6:12pm
Hello Tony
I have a Bernard W2 stationary engine, I think its the same engine as used in the BT2 crawler. It looks in great condition. I'm turning all shades of green with envy, I would love one.
This single page brochure shows them at work.
 
 
 
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Quote ransomesmg6 Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2009 at 6:39pm
It can pull some weight


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Nothing runs like a Deere!!
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Nothing trots like a Horse!!
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 6:56am
Hi,i have fond more Bernard crawlers and yes a ramsones too,but i didden't buy one of them........ yet.....

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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 7:10am
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 7:18am
This one could't even be saved from the shedder !, it is a french StChamond crawler and his owner brought it for sale and noweone wanted this beauty !, not even for 500 euro !!!,  its started and runs very well..................Cry 

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Quote pete0250 Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 7:36am
Hi Tony, having looked at your picture I think I shall have to organise a holiday on the continent to look at such interesting machinery. Do you attend shows and rallies to show off your machines? Talk to you later, Pete
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 3:35pm
Less than 500 plus fuel etc to collect is not an unreasonable price for something different. Maybe collecting such things is not so popular in the EU.
I can see a VHGMC trip to the French and Belgian sales getting organised. All we need is a few sale dates and venues.
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Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 3:39pm
How about enrolling Tony as the VHGMC Belgian Area Rep ??
Just a thought...
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Quote Trusty Bloke Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 3:52pm
 
Well, I have places to store in Belgium, as the motorcycle club that
I belong to has three clubhouses, with plenty of land .........
One isn't that far from Koningshooikt where the owner of some
of the Simars shown on this forum lives.
 
I have to admit, I do like those French crawlers !!!!


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Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 4:01pm
Sounds good to me !!
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 7:26pm
Hi, all the nice crawlers are from france, you can find them hardly here in Belgium,but if you like heavy walk behind tractors ( mostly german made; Holder,Bungartz,Agria,Fahr,Hummel and some Italian stuff) in belgium you can find them, sometimes sheap, but they know the price also here..........
Mostly i look in France......................


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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 8:01pm
Hi Pete, the most shows and rally's in Belgium are four oldtimer farm tractors, the guy's i know who collect walk behind tractors are inviduals who have some machines,they restore them,some of them go sometimes to a show, most of them keep there machinery in a shed for themselfs. I know guy's who have 50 walk behind tractors and more............., but they sell nothing. Mostly you can buy on Ebay or Kapaza here . But lol i will tell you not all my secrets !,i have already talked to mush..........lol ( just joking,whats count for me is to save  all that nice "piece of art" machinery from the shedder !). I wish i had more time to spend so i could finally start to restore my beauty's properly and to search and collect............In France you just can't imagine what is throwing away sometimes,nice pieces of art machinery or lots of hard to find pieces who doesen't found a new owner when i came for sale, sometimes they can be founded in an old shed, leaved to rost and rotten away when there owners died,i have seeing and taken over a hundred pictures of lost machinery,rotten away, abondoned. i have also a picture taken of a Heinrich Lanz Buldog,that makes my heart bleading.just another exsampe;see below, a Carterpillar crawler lost in nature,just almost rotten away, by the way,this one was made in 1940 !

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Quote will_haggle Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 8:56pm
Those Bernard tractors with their larger front sprockets remind me of the Renault tanks from WW1, they were quite nippy as well....
Here's a Mower with a Bernard Engine.....


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Quote Trusty Bloke Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:03pm
 
Yes, I was thinking old French Tanks aswell ............. !
It is worrying what is thrown away, some of those old tracked
vehicles look great fun to mess around with. You wouldn't find
anyone over here scrapping a Bristol or Ransomes crawler .......
(At least I hope not !! )


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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:07pm
Hi Will, yes you are very right about that. The Renault FT-17. StChamond made also military tanks in WW1
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:10pm
Hi Will, very special mower !, btw........nice restored Allis-Chalmers B......................

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Quote pete0250 Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:32pm
Put me down for that!!!! I'd love to go all being well.
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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:50pm
Hi folk another pair of smaller machines abondone and left for old iron in France !

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Quote TonySpriet Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:57pm
on the picture of the Gravely with the front mower bar there are even a few artillery grenades, shells and even an old rusty rifle barrel against the bric wall laying in open air !!!!!LOL ( better look out for some shelter !!!)LOL. La Douche France !. I asked the owner of the Energic walk behind tractor ( the one on the picture with the blue tape on the handle bars) if he doesen't wanted to sell the tractor to me for a good price (as you can see the tirers ware brand new!)he answered me he did not want money for it and that he more anjoy it to use it as a garden ornament, he really wanted to see it rotten away, i had to turn away from him or i had him taken by his ears for a good restauration of his face !Angry

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Quote Trusty Bloke Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 11:03pm
 
That is often said about farmers over here, that they would rather see
a tractor fixing a hole in the hedge, that to sell the tractor and fix the
hedge properly. Always a shame, I don't know what is going on in their
heads - although banging them together might make them see sense !
As for the military artillery shells ....... I'm guessing that most of these
tractors are on a line following the WW1 trenches ??
If you are over that way again, I really need a nice British 18 Pounder
shell casing and round (with brass timing fuse) to match the one on
the left side of my fireplace !
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Quote crawler Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 12:18am
Great pictures of the crawlers Tony. It looks like France is the place to go for vintage machines.
I think we have all had dealings with people like that Trusty Bloke. I went to look at an Anzani Iron Horse a lot of years ago, it was sitting outside half buried in a hedge. The chap would not part with it saying that he might need to use it some day, considering he was well into his eighties and barely able to get up out of his chair I somehow couldn't picture him wrestling with an Iron Horse. Some people just wont part with old machines, they would rather see them rust away rather than let you take them away.
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