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    Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 7:31am

 Now that it has finished has anyone else been watching the Shanks Pony Mower on the bay, or even bought it at over 1200.
 I know it was reasonably complete but still seems an enormous price, the seller lives near me but the mower was apparently in Yorkshire. Shocked
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Quote hdtrust Replybullet Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 12:44am
Lets face it have you got one in your stable?
Possibly not
These are rare machines to come to auction,this one in particular being an early Patent Pony Mower.
Lets put it into its right catorgory,its not something from the 1950's but from 1890!
There were 2 National Collections after it,and 3 wealthy Private Collectors,Fortunetly one of the National Collections purchased it.So it will be preserved for the Nation just please tell me how many Howard Gem's get this accalade!
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Quote Philipagri Replybullet Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 8:56am

I am glad it has gone to a national collection and look forward to seeing a machine which I think was the originator of the saying  'travelling by Shanks' pony'   put  on display.
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Quote series1gem Replybullet Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by hdtrust

Lets face it have you got one in your stable?
Possibly not
These are rare machines to come to auction,this one in particular being an early Patent Pony Mower.
Lets put it into its right catorgory,its not something from the 1950's but from 1890!
There were 2 National Collections after it,and 3 wealthy Private Collectors,Fortunetly one of the National Collections purchased it.So it will be preserved for the Nation just please tell me how many Howard Gem's get this accalade!
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I quite agree that great effort should go towards preserving it, however we should all where possible preserve our past reguardless of how common or rare the machine is!
If it isnt orange it isnt a rotavator
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Quote hdtrust Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 8:53pm
Ouchthe big question on the pony mower is who has it and will it be restored to its former glory i do hope so.at over 150 years old i wonder if the stuff from the50s wTongueill survive or not time will tell.mike duck.
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Quote farmers boy 2 Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 9:53pm
well i guess this question will indeed be asked many times the the stark truth is that in 60 years time when the question could be answered not many of us will be here to find out !!!!
Kim. He's not a newbie, just a well preserved secondhand model
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Quote series1gem Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:07pm

Well, if its preserved now then there will be many more left in the future than there is of this mower now,allthougth part of that will be down to much higher production figures of machines in the 1950's

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Quote lawnmowerboy Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:15pm
I will!!!
hopefully
the build quality of the 50s machines is stil miles better than any machine now!

hdtrust i still dont see how you can see these machines as new!
Grow old, not up!!!
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Quote series1gem Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:27pm
Older people often do Will- my dad still struggles to get his head round how my kohler gem is considered a classic as he still remembers selling them new around this sort of time. Probably one day the cheap chinese rubbish from today will be considered collectable, however i doubt very much there will be any examples left to save!
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Quote enginear Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:33pm
LMB,you have no chance what do think this planet is going to be like in about 60yr's time the oil will be gone,China will be the biggest power,way above America,the combustion engine will be regarded with the same wonderment that we regard steam now,there will be road's to nowhere,and there will be precious little ground that has not got some sort of building on it,that's if you will be able to survive on the food that won't be contaminated with radiation,but apart from that the best of luck for the future!      
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Quote series1gem Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:46pm
And if the oil hasnt gone it will probably cost  1,000,000 a litre by then for diesel. But by then even if i'm still around i'll be over 90 so i probably wont be aware of whats going on anyway
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Quote hdtrust Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 11:36pm
Unfortunetly 50's and upwards to 70's is new we worked with the stuff,some good and some crap!The crap ones if survived will become your rare stuff of the future.
I have some good news on the Oil front,our supplies around the British Isles have another 200 years before they run out.The biggest un touched  deposit lies under the Peak National Park,and there is far more of the west coast of Scotland!
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Quote hdtrust Replybullet Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 11:41pm
Getting back to basics,
That Shanks Pony mower had a cutting width of 25",It was a Patent Shanks Pony Mower so it pre dates 1893,I would say its date is mid 1880's
Now that is old!
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Quote lawnmowerboy Replybullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 9:14am
wow thats as old as my house!!!

well i s'pose that i still see them as old men because there older than me!!
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Quote Philipagri Replybullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 7:03pm

Personally I like collecting machines of all ages especially if they are unusual or have some revolutionary feature (Ive even shown a Flymo), but I have a special affection for very early machines with their primitive design often turned out by firms who were simply specialised blacksmiths.
I also enjoy seeing and using when possible machines similar in age to the Shanks that say my great grandfather would have been familiar with and possibly used when he founded the local village cricket team during Victoria's reign.
That is why this hobby is so fascinating.
 
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Quote series1gem Replybullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 7:34pm
Machines of all ages should be preserved(even the odd aspera), then in the future we will be able to see what our fathers etc used, in 2007 i was knocked for preserving an old subaru pick up, comments like its far to new and theres loads about, now checking dvla theres only just over 500 and they are increasing in value by about a grand a year.
If previous owners of this mower hadnt saved it then there would be one less to admire. So i say preserve anything you personally find intresting reguardless of age or value!
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Quote hdtrust Replybullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 8:33am
Originally posted by lawnmowerboy

wow thats as old as my house!!!

well i s'pose that i still see them as old men because there older than me!!
There should be a correction in your Quote Lawnmowerboy!

It should read knowledgable and worldly old men!
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Quote lawnmowerboy Replybullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 9:29am
if you say so
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