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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 1:40pm
So here is my first big restoration project...... Little bit of work needed in some areasCry . I know its not strictly garden machinery but it is a ransomes mg6. What you all reckon? Am I mad???Big%20smile
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Quote crawler Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 2:17pm
What a great find. Have you got the engine for it?
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 2:45pm
Unfortunatly the engine is missing off it. However Neil off this forum has one I just need to get over to Wales to pick it up. Going to get it going as it is first then strip it down completly and re build from scratch. Anyone ever came across one of these before or own one? I believe they were popular with waterboards in England in conjunction with the sand skimmer(note to self... must get a skimmer to complete the pair!!...) Mine was originally with a water company here in Ireland. Anyone know how many of them were ever made? Can I trace the year it was made from the serial number? 
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Quote ransomesmg6 Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 4:01pm
That is a lovely machine with great potential! Good luck with the restoration!
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Quote MGmagic Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 7:28pm
What a great find. It was built in 1956 from the serial number pictured. What water company used these in Ireland?
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Quote garfield Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 8:42pm
wot a nice bit ov kit
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Quote TITCH Replybullet Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 9:48pm
Loads of potential there!!
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 1:09am
Dublin Corporation run the treatment plant where this one came out of. It is located in Roundwood , Co . Wicklow. It is the resi that supplies Dublins water. It is also where myself and my son are members of the local fly fishing club. Had been hoping to track down the original engine off it but not having any luck.
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 8:38am
A great find find, look forward to seeing the finished restoration.
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Quote series1gem Replybullet Posted: 18 Sep 2011 at 12:16pm
I know where theres one of these locally to me in the hedge, but the owner is determined that one day he will restore it, i bet it will still be there in another 20 years.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 9:45pm
Hey lads, doing a bit of stripping down on the dumper. My problem is getting the rubber swamp blocks off. The nuts are so rusted that they have lost some of their faces and as a result sockets and spanners wont catch on them. There a few pics of them above in the earlier photos. Cant burn them out as they are in the middle of the rubber pads. A conventional nut splitter wont get down to where they are. Any ideas? I really dont want to damage the pads in any way.
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Quote jim beacon Replybullet Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 10:27pm
A small, sharp cold chisel will do it - once you've had a bit of practice, you'll even be able to get the nuts off without ruining the thread on the bolt!

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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 10:43pm
Yes was thinking that. Hoping for a handier way though!! There is alot of them...
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Quote charliesfergy Replybullet Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 11:52pm
air chisel? only 15 in screwfix?
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Quote jim beacon Replybullet Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 12:17pm
Air chisel is a bit fierce - when you chisel a nut off, you hold the chisel with the blade parallel to the bolt, and at a slight angle to the flat of the nut. This will split the body of the nut away from the bolt, though more often than not, the nut will begin to turn after a few blows, and can then be rmoved with Mole grips or similar.

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Quote Rusty Nuts Replybullet Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 10:01pm
Hello David
I decided on mine to remove the rubbers from the backing plates. The ends of the backing plates are rusted so that nearly all the rubbers are starting to come away. If the rubber is out of the way you would be able to get at the nuts. From your photos your MG has not lost as many rubbers as mine.
Just for the record you do not need to split the tracks to get them off the tractor. Most MG tracks will continue to give good service even if very worn.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 12:10am
Hi Alastair, when you say remove the rubbers do you mean to just rip them off ? I want to re fit them. almost all of the u shaped metal pieces under them are corroded betond salvage. Are there blocks of asbestos under these metal pieces? I though if I could get the track off I might be able to remove the rubber pads by cutting off the head of the bolt from below and just knocking the nut and bolt out with a punch through the pad side if you know what I mean ? 
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Quote Rusty Nuts Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 9:41pm

Hello David
On mine the the rubbers are glued onto the U shaped metal backing plates, there is no asbestos. The bolts only hold the metal plates the rubbers are cut out round the nuts. If you get the plate off the rubber will still be attached to it. The majority of these plates I am hoping to re-use. I have only experimented with a couple of rubbers by cutting them off with a knife. The plan is to clean both faces and glue them back together. As my dumper does not have a plate I do not know how old it is but I suspect it is later than yours.

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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 11:37pm
Hi Alastair. I feel my rubbers are glued onto the plates as well. I have now got the nuts off one of the pads but am still unable to get the asbestos block , if thats what it is, or the metal plate , which I am now calling a shoe ...! !!... off. According to Neils cattalogue of spares it seems as if the connnecting part for the track is different when putting on the swamp pads? I am afraid to do to much beating on it in case I do more harm than good?!? Any pictures of your machines progress?
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Quote Ransomes256 Replybullet Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 1:37pm
David,
The rubbers are vulcanised to the metal plates.  The question about asbestos is probably made as the aluminium spacer block between plate and track corrode and give off a powdery deposit and give the appearance of asbestos.
When I have found removal of the nuts impossible due to the depth on the counterbore of the rubber I have drilled the head of the bolt out from the other side.  Still a pain but safe and damage free.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 10:20pm
Hi Neil,
still not been able to get one off despite having got the nuts off. Is the aluminium spacer held on with something else?
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Quote Ransomes256 Replybullet Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 7:58am
David,
If the nuts are removed and the bolts knocked out it can only be corrosion holding them in place.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:31pm
Hi Neil,
that was what i wanted to hear! Little bit of gentle leverage with a nail bar and out it popped! Now for the rest of them..... Is it a big deal to get the rubber re-vulcanised onto new metal shoes?
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Quote DevonNewbie Replybullet Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 8:57pm
Hi David

I don't think you can re-vulcanise rubber but you could glue them back on. If you get the right glue it should be strong enough.

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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2011 at 9:39pm
Hi Al
I was thinking that. What glue do you reckon?
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