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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 10:08pm
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Quote Thomas Replybullet Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 6:45pm
I replaced the bearings in mine, and found that oil seals had been fitted to the hub that shouldn't of been there, oil couldn't get from the final drive to the hub. of course I would of replaced them if it wasn't for Neil pointing it out. whats caused the rubbing on the casing?
Started work on mine again today... yea...
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 18 Feb 2013 at 11:45pm
The rubbing is a bit of a mystery as the bearings are fine and no obvious play in anything.... Hope I dont find I have missed something when its all back together..... Neil is the man to put you right on all this stuff . Starting work on repairing my fuel tank this week . I will post a few pics when finished.
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Quote Ransomes256 Replybullet Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 7:45am
I guess the rubbing was caused by a previous bearing failure which had been repaired and the housing reused.   As you say everything in the box looks good.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 11:43am
That's what I was telling myself as well Neil !
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 11:15pm
Next time your considering breaking down the tracks on a ransomes crawler into their component parts then cleaning them back to bare metal, priming and painting.... Stop. Reconsider your life goals, what other things you could be doing instead, how long you will be dead for... Then tell yourself it will be worth it in the end and get that spray gun back in your hand..... again .....CryBig%20smile
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Quote Thomas Replybullet Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 6:33pm

I thought about doing mine, and decided not too, they can be done at a later date. I want to see how much the stones up here shine them up before thinking about painting them! Pictures would be apreciated!!!! if you have made a good job I could always send mine over for you to do....LOL

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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 10:31pm
Well despite the acid rust removal i still could not get the last bits from down in the corners of the track pieces. So today i took delivery of a blasting cabinet. Glass beads on the way tomorrow so any advice from anyone out there ???
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Quote marshallnut Replybullet Posted: 18 Mar 2013 at 12:49pm
Don't bother, first time you go out they'll be fill of much again! Unless you're going concours and will only drive it on carpet. LOL
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 18 Mar 2013 at 8:49pm
They are very badly rusted so I want to try and prevent them getting any worse. If it was to be a true working machine I would not bother though.I have not taken any photos lately though work has been progressing. I will get a few during the week and stick them up.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 27 Mar 2013 at 10:51pm
A few photos of my current battle with rust. I have been filling in some of the holes in the track sections by building up with weld. Low hydrogen rods and a lot of patience.... Some of them are very badly gone around the bolt holes though. Any ideas on what I could do with them ? Other photos show my " spray line" . I have 23 welded up and primed, only another what is it ? 5000 to go .... The track rebuild has really set my program back months. Oh well ... 
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Quote Ransomes256 Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 7:57am
David,
I admire your patience.
I have thrown better than these away.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 10:13am
Hi Neil
It's a pity you didn't throw them in a box and send them over to me!!
I could really do with about 6 half decent ones though. The ones that are rusted through around the bolt holes are a major problem. Starting to think about cutting pieces out with the gas and welding plate back in. Don't suppose you know anyone with a scrap one in Ireland ?
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Quote Thomas Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 10:39am
There was a set of tracks for sale on the usual auction site about ten days ago !
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 11:11am
Can't find them Thomas. What were they listed under?
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Quote Ransomes256 Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 11:51am
David,
Sorry not aware of any in Ireland.
I notice the track is the agriculture track and not the industrial section. Problem you may find with replacements is that due to the swamp blocks being used the wear is on the drive and roller side rather than the ground contact side where as most track will be the opposite.   This can lead to a distinctive step in the wheel rolling surface if odd sections are replaced.  Additionally be careful when reassembling the track as the driving wheel teeth will be worn more on one side than the other and this can lead to engagement problems if the sections are reversed one against another ie. big pitch, small pitch.
It does not matter which way round but all the same way is better.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 12:51pm
I will keep that in mind when I eventually get to re assembly stage Neil ! In the mean time I guess I will have to strongly think about cutting out sections and welding something back in to them. I patched my fuel tank which had 2 holes about 2 inch square in it. Managed to seal the patch but around 20 other leaks then appeared. 10 brazing rods later it was still leaking. If you have any pallets coming my way I will get a new tank off you.
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Quote Thomas Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 4:44pm
finished about a week ago,never gave them much of a look just noticed them.
As I said I am not doing mine, they can be removed and done later, surely spare ones floating about, there was a scrappy on selling 5 various machines in poor condition but he wanted silly money, too much for a donor machine.
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2013 at 10:11pm
The track repairs continue !!!!Cry
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Quote Thomas Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2013 at 8:01am
Hat of to you!!! but it looks like your on the right track....   
I am jealous, I just haven't been able to get to mine between other commitments, in fact got to the point last week I thought about selling her in parts as I am fed up tripping over parts and not having time to get on with it.
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Quote will_haggle Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2013 at 8:14am
A true labour of love...
6 months ago I couldn't even spell engineer - now I are one
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2013 at 10:57pm
Ah it's become a type of madness I think! Have the engine all cleaned down ready for paint and most of the other parts at the same stage. Now if only work and household duties would go away so I could start rebuild.... Oh I forgot I still have another 100000000 track parts to weld , grind , sand blast, prime , undercoat and finish coat . Then start on the swamp pads .....
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 27 May 2013 at 10:15pm
Just an update on progress. Various track parts soaking in a molasses solution and going very well. The rubber spacers which have alot of rust stuck to them are coming out only in need of a light scrub ! It's good stuff !!
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 28 May 2013 at 11:12pm
Any ideas on how to get this plate looking like new? Its much duller in reality than in the picture....
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Quote sdarmstrong Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2013 at 11:44pm
Help !?!?!?CryBig%20smileCryBig%20smile
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Quote Phil Somers Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2013 at 9:13am
What about replacing them with new reproduction. SG1 posted about some he had made for his gem's and they were the dogs and not too expensive.

http://www.tractorbox.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7514&KW=

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Quote nigel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2013 at 6:03pm
in the past with brass ive used battery acid but keep an eye on them and where eye protection and then stuck them in brown vininger to get the coulour back
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