Established 1993. The only club dedicated to all types of vintage garden tools and machinery

 
.....Find the NEW website and machinery forums at www.vhgmc.co.uk
 
  Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Ride-on machines
 VHGMC ForumsThe Machinery ForumsRide-on machines
Message Icon Topic: Wheel Horse GT14 Post Reply Post New Topic
Page  of 2 Next >>
Author Message
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Topic: Wheel Horse GT14
    Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 12:57pm
thought I'd share some pics of my latest acquisition, a 1972 GT14. Rumour has it that only a limited quantity made it to Europe.
Well after losing it on that auction site (ipad lost the plot at the last minute), I got a second chance offer...  I ignored the mail and contacted the seller directly offering less than I had actually bid !
Result was I collected from a very foggy farm on the edge of North Yorkshire early sunday morning
 
 
 
on arrival it was looking very sorry for itself having had the main drive belt snap over 20 years ago and then being consigned to storage!
1000lbs on 4 flat tyres took some moving - we fork trucked it in the end!
 
We got home, inflated the tyres, loosened the relief valve on the transmission, and rolled  it off the trailer.
A dash of petrol and a battery and it fired into life!  very little smoke and ran quite sweetly. 
Now looking for the odds and sods required to get it running under it's own steam...  a new drive belt and someone has borrowed the lift valve, pipework and lower link arms !
 
mark
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
Norm4n
Forum Member
Forum Member


Joined: 15 Sep 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 58
Quote Norm4n Replybullet Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 3:27pm
Good luck, I was following this one with interest
IP IP Logged
pmackellow
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7648
Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 5:12pm
Good catch meadowfield, well done

Collector of Tarpen, Wheelhorse, International Cub Cadet, Landmaster, Cooper Stewart, Farmfitters, Jobber, Jalo, Ro-lo, Sisis and literature
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 7:10pm
cheers - anyone know where I can get some CAT 0 lower link arms, or weld on CAT 0 ends?  I'm currently toying with buying some 5/8" spherical bearings and making my own...
 
mark
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
Dieselhead
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1654
Quote Dieselhead Replybullet Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 9:15pm
Was this the one which said it had an out front mower deck??
 
The pics were infact the under slung standard deck just removed & dumped in front of the tractor!
 
For cat O bits, try a company called Kramp. Or find a agri dealer who deals with them. 
Chris. I aint getting on no plane. Fool!
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 11:09pm
Originally posted by Dieselhead



Was this the one which said it had an out front mower deck??
 
The pics were infact the under slung standard deck just removed & dumped in front of the tractor!
 
For cat O bits, try a company called Kramp. Or find a agri dealer who deals with them. 


Yeah, that's the one.... Had to laugh, it was a fairly modern 36" deck sat at the front! The tractor dwarfs it, 48" decks were the standard fitment.
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
Lynch
New Member
New Member


Joined: 18 Nov 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8
Quote Lynch Replybullet Posted: 27 Nov 2011 at 9:31am
very nice. Good luck with the restore.
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 28 Nov 2011 at 2:27pm
well... after a good clean up of the carb, and blowing the air filter out we got it starting nicely on the key.
A bit of a trial with the belt size !  interweb and forums say an 85x21/32" belt which in english money is 2160x16mm - nearest match is B83 @ 2150mm.
 
However a B83 is too long?!?   this doesn't make sense unless the old belt was measurent on the OD, and the metric equivalent on the ID. Can anyone clarify?
 
Anyway, fitted a B82 and shimmed the linkage to stop it flapping around and voila !  it drives...  :)
 
mark
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
pmackellow
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7648
Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 9:52am
Any updates on this tractor Mark ??

Collector of Tarpen, Wheelhorse, International Cub Cadet, Landmaster, Cooper Stewart, Farmfitters, Jobber, Jalo, Ro-lo, Sisis and literature
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 11:30am
as it happens Paul yes I have !
 
after some trawling of the net I managed to acquire a lift valve for the 3 point linkage. I've had 2 hoses made up for the connection from the pump to the valve.
After extensive research I'm fairly clued up on how it all works now.... The result a working 3 point lift  :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Currently working on making new lower link arms to match the originals.
 
mark
 
 
 
 
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
pmackellow
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7648
Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 4:38pm
Nice one, that increases the versatility of the tractor, i would think that would pull a hefty plough !

Collector of Tarpen, Wheelhorse, International Cub Cadet, Landmaster, Cooper Stewart, Farmfitters, Jobber, Jalo, Ro-lo, Sisis and literature
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 7:16pm
It's not so much about pulling the plough as lifting it out of the ground !

have you felt the weight of those things....
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
hortimech
Forum Member
Forum Member


Joined: 17 Jul 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 155
Quote hortimech Replybullet Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 7:17pm
Not if he wants the HST unit to last Shocked
IP IP Logged
Stigian
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 161
Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 3:08pm
Howdo Mark, fancy bumping into you hereBig%20smile
Where did you get your hydraulic hoses from, and are they costly things to have made up?
Oh, nice GT by the waySmile
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 10:05am
walker hydraulics up the road from me!
 
7.50 each....  made to measure while I waited  :)
 
Thumbs%20Up
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 10:07am
Another step closer, 12mm rigging screws and top link arrived on saturday!
 
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
hortimech
Forum Member
Forum Member


Joined: 17 Jul 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 155
Quote hortimech Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 10:19am
Looks good so far but you really only need one adjustable drop link and what are you using for check chains, Fencing tensioners?
 
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 1:44pm
it was easier to just use two of the same rather than buy one adjustabe and make another....also gives me the chance to adjust overall lift height if I ever need to.
 
Not sure about check chains - very tempted to use fencing turnbuckles /rigging screws onto the outside to save on them crossing and rubbing.
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
hortimech
Forum Member
Forum Member


Joined: 17 Jul 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 155
Quote hortimech Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 3:17pm
The idea of the adjustable link is to level the implement, that is why you should only use one, and to get different lift heights, you just need to drill more holes in the lower lift arms. If in doubt find a Kubota mini tractor (or similar) and see how this is set up.
Also now I think about it, I do not think the adjustable links you have will work correctly, every lift link I have seen is cranked top & bottom, with a rose-joint at the top, this allows the lower link spacing to alter.
You definitely need check chains, otherwise the implement will sway from side to side and tear your rear tyres to shreds.
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 4:40pm
Hi,
 
I think we misunderstand each other !
 
I agree entirely about only one being adjustable (I'm just being lazy, once it is all working I can weld one side up to prevent any movement).
 
Also agree on lift heights !
 
The picture was taken before the postman had been with the top rose joint :)
 
 
here's the updated pic !
 
...and I wasn't saying no check chains, just I can either use chains on the inside and cross them. Or the more modern way on CNH products is to use adjustable solid links on the outers of the links then they do not cross or rattle.
 
thanks
 
mark
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
hortimech
Forum Member
Forum Member


Joined: 17 Jul 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 155
Quote hortimech Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 8:06pm
Sorry about the misunderstanding about the check chains.
I now see that you have moved the lift link position, you do know that the nearer you move it towards the pivot point the less lift & movement.
I still think you need to have a look at a mini-tractor, try your local golf club, just go to the greenkeepers sheds and ask to have a look.
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 9:31pm
But for the modernisation and laziness the lift arms, lengths and lift holes are exact copies of the originals.
There may be opportunities later to improve if I see a problem, but for now I'll stick to the original blueprints.

Thanks

Mark
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
charliesfergy
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 Nov 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 368
Quote charliesfergy Replybullet Posted: 22 Feb 2012 at 9:36am
oooh man size Vice, will be interesting seeing how it turns out

will
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 24 Feb 2012 at 6:59pm
I managed to cut the links down to size - and have made one side fixed :)




plus made a new lift lever for the spool valve :p



me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 29 Feb 2012 at 11:35am
a few more pics stripping down the transmission to fix the brake...
 
 
 
 
 
found a collapsed torrington bearing whilst I was at it, but nothing elase major other than the very worn pawl !!!
 
 
 
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 08 Mar 2012 at 11:42am
update...

new bearings and seals added, parking pawl fixed!






transmission painted and ready to go back on!
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 5:55pm
After a bit of work and new bearings the transmission is back in !
 
 
 
and the whole linkage rebushed and straightened.
 
 
 
 
and new rubber !!!!  8 ply though, going to be a rough ride !
 
mark
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 5:09pm
I managed to complete the 3 point - and make a good copy of the original A frame Clevis mount.




and here with 12" plough hanging on!  though I haven't made the clevis bit yet...





me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2012 at 10:58am
and finally made those check links to stop it all swaying !
 
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
The Showman
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 03 Nov 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 745
Quote The Showman Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2012 at 9:06pm
looks the nuts Mark. is that coming to Ardingly
No Fools....Only Horses. Wheelhorse of course
IP IP Logged
pmackellow
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7648
Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2012 at 9:57pm
I hope so !!
Collector of Tarpen, Wheelhorse, International Cub Cadet, Landmaster, Cooper Stewart, Farmfitters, Jobber, Jalo, Ro-lo, Sisis and literature
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 24 Apr 2012 at 7:47am
it's all down to size/weight/economy...

I can fit three horses sideways on my 10x6 trailer and put the sides up and gross weight is 1500Kg. Freelander will only do 55mph on the flat and 40 uphill with that on the back!!!

The GT is a foot longer (wheelbase is only an inch - but bigger tyres) so takes up a bit more space...

We are deffo bringing lawn ranger (small and light) up for grabs for dad to bring is raider 10/C-105/B-111 - and me C-105/GT14.

The first 2 shows of the year I have booked 3 in, so I'll see how the landy goes - though it's only 5 miles away !!!!!!
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
pmackellow
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 7648
Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 15 Jul 2012 at 4:18pm
It made it to Ardingly, this is the shot of Mark loading it up for the homeward journey...



Collector of Tarpen, Wheelhorse, International Cub Cadet, Landmaster, Cooper Stewart, Farmfitters, Jobber, Jalo, Ro-lo, Sisis and literature
IP IP Logged
meadowfield
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 273
Quote meadowfield Replybullet Posted: 15 Jul 2012 at 9:02pm
thanks Paul,  is the the only pic of me?  (hope so)  I didn't seem to make it into many shots! :)

shame about the fuel pump packing up!
me fatha allus toldus thez three kinds of engineer - them what can add up, an them what can't
IP IP Logged
WestwoodGazelle
Forum Member
Forum Member
Avatar

Joined: 20 May 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 35
Quote WestwoodGazelle Replybullet Posted: 16 Jul 2012 at 4:34am
Great job on the GT so far Mark, it's a beautiful machine Smile
IP IP Logged
Page  of 2 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.