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Quote Stigian Replybullet Topic: A new 'orse in the stable. A GT 14
    Posted: 09 Jun 2013 at 7:50pm
Evening all, with the 856 sold I had a chance to buy one of my dream Wh's, a GT 14.
I first starting chatting with Neilhorse about buying this GT late last year, due to one thing and another (otherwise known as life) it has taken over 6 months for the GT to arrive....
Was it worth the wait??    Oh yes indeed Big%20smile




So... How do you move a rather heavy non running Wheel Horse from the back of a van into my Workshack?

By Wheel Horse of course Thumbs%20Up




A big THANK YOU to this chap, Paul for bringing the GT up all the way from cider country to Kent..




The GT get's the Thumbs%20Up




My plans for the GT are to get it running, it has no spark at the mo, but a bit of investigation has found that a previous owner to Neil had fitted new points but not sorted the timing out..




Put a tube in the split but original front tyre..  
I could replace the tyre but as the GT still has a full set of original tyres all round it would be a shame to swap one of them if it is still usable.


Give it a bit of a service, and use it... Lot's  Big%20smile

The body is a bit dented, a bit faded and has a splattering of surface rust..
Which I think is wonderful..

So no restoration here, just a wipe over once a month with an oily rag to keep the rust at bay..

Neil also threw a rather big GT cutting deck into the deal (thanks Neil), which will be put into service once I work out how it hangs under the 'orse


A few random photo's..

Both the dash panel and shifter plate have shrunk over the years, but it's quite easy to buy new reproductions.






And the exhaust needs a little tweak LOL


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Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 09 Jun 2013 at 8:02pm
Looks a useful machine Ian, nice one

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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 7:52am
Thanks Paul, I'm looking forward to putting her to work..

A small update for those that are interested..

A clean and reset of the points followed by unblocking the fuel tap had the GT up and running again.

Here's a couple of photo's of Mark (Meadowfield) hurtling around the garden..

Yes, that is an undersized wheel/tyre combo fitted..






The trans and hydraulics works just fine.
The flat original front tyre now holds it's air with the help of a tube..

It's not all roses though.. The electrical system has some gremlins that flatten the battery if left connected..
I had a quick look yesterday and found the wrong ignition switch has been fitted!!
The teeth on the engine ring gear are rather chewed up and will need replacing at some point, but I'm hoping a bit of file work will help things for now..
Oh, and for some reason the engine seems to be running very hot!!

So, a few problems to sort out but nothing too nasty..
It will have to wait a little while though, just over 2 weeks until Ardingly so the 6X6 is taking full priority at the mo..

As ever keep checking my YouTube channel for video updates, there's a couple about the GT  Thumbs%20Up
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Quote wristpin Replybullet Posted: 26 Jun 2013 at 11:45am
This may be of use?


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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 03 Aug 2013 at 8:04am
Unfortunately, the GT is now up for sale..

Sorry to all who were looking forward to the build thread.


Thanks for the switch diagram Wristpin, very useful.. 
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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 8:34am
Now very much not for sale Thumbs%20Up
A progress report coming very soon Guy's.
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Quote Dieselhead Replybullet Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 11:01am
Make your mind up then!LOL
 
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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 3:58pm
Lol, there was a time when money was more needed than 3 Wh's hence the GT went up for sale..
Luckily I managed to raise the 's with having to sell it..

Having now more than a few problems with the ol girl I was getting a little narked off, but I should point out that none of the problems have been down to Neil who I bought it from.
Neil bought it, pushed it off a trailer and it only moved again when it was loaded into a van to find it's way here.

Anyway, I only managed one short drive (a few laps of the garden don't count) before stopping for a quick photo and returning to base because the engine was getting worryingly hot!




Oil blowing out between the head and barrel plus the engine pumping oil out of places it shouldn't pointed towards piston ring/barrel problems.
That and the chewed up ring gear meant the engine was not really usable without a rebuild which I didn't have the money for..

A suitable temporary replacement engine was found with a Wheel Horse Raider 10 attached..
The engine was not quite the 10hp original though, it was a stonking 16hp  Kohler magnum advertised as turns over but no spark..
From the photo's I guessed it was the cut and shut wiring to blame.

As a bonus I sold the cutting deck from it for almost the amount it cost me to buy the 'orse Big%20smile

Photo's stolen from a certain auction site.






It wasn't until after Ardingly that I got a chance to have a good look at the engine..
A quick rewire had the engine producing a spark..
A bit of petrol soon had it running nice and smooth with no nasty sounds or black smoke.. woo-hooLOL




Up on the bench it went, air filter off to see the high class repair on the choke butterfly!




The Magnums choke/throttle linkage would hit the fuel tank in the GT, so it had to come off.




That's better.




A GT 00




A Bench 30 LOL




The Magnums carb got a god clean and repair..

From this..




To this..




The original 14hp engine throttle linkage..




Bolted straight onto the later Magnum block with only one extra hole needed on the shroud.




And with that the new engine was bolted into the GT..

Er... I spot a problem... But it was a problem I had been expecting..

Yep the bonnet won't close now!




More to come later guy's, it's that "I'm an old fart who needs an afternoon kip" sort of time.
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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 7:18am
There are three ways I could deal with the bonnet problem..

1  Cut or bend the bonnet to clear......
2  Cut and shut the engine shroud to clear..
3  Run it without a bonnet..

Number 1 just isn't going to happen!
Number 3 is by far the easiest, but I want to look down the bonnet when driving, not at the engine!
So that leaves number 2

A quick trim of the shroud later..




And the bonnet now closes Thumbs%20Up




The hole plated over.




Plenty of bonnet to engine clearance now.




Getting the electric PTO and pulley have proved a right problem!
Even once the PTO is off, judging by the state of the grub screws the pulley will be a real nightmare to get off!

 


But as luck would have it I had the remains of a very dead Kohler KT-17 engine from a Wheel Horse C-175 on the shelf with a hydro size pulley on it.
The problem was I could not get the pulley off, or get the flywheel off to unbolt the stator and split the case apart to push the pulley off from the inside!




But as the KT engine was really dead (holes punched through case by a busted con rod, sort of dead), I had a fun idea..

Engine case meet a 12 ton press Big%20smile
(See the video on my YouTube channel)




Once the case was cracked open I gave the trashed crankshaft a gentle tap with a big hammer.. One broken crank..




As an added bonus the previously stuck on flywheel popped off at the same time Smile




Taa-Daa... The pulley off.




It was about that time when money worries cropped up to spoil the fun, so the poor GT was hurriedly put back to original condition and listed for sale!

More to come later Guy's n Girls, Got a lot to get done today..
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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 21 Aug 2013 at 5:57pm
Howdo all, the Gt story continues!!!

So, with the GT now looking like this ready to be sold..




It soon looked like this once the crisis was over and I didn't have to sell it!




Engine back in and exhaust sorted.








OH, and the GT also gained the roll bar that I made for my Wheel Horse 312-8.
Gotta love the Wheel Horse parts interchangeability, even though the bar was custom made for the 312 it bolted straight onto the GT Big%20smile






It was while bolting on the roll bar that the next problem cropped up!!
I found the drive pulley on the hydro trans was rather on the wobbly side!

Getting the old pulley off was fun as many many years ago someone had tried to weld the cast pulley to the steel  shaft on the hydro pump!!
Of course the weld stuck to the shaft but not the pulley!!
Quite a long time was spent carefully grinding out the weld that was stopping this pulley coming off!

 


Hhmmm... A knackered keyway..




And two broken off grub screws!




Oh, the shaft on the pump looked like this!! I guess there had not been a key in it for a long time, one certainly didn't fall out when the pulley came off.




After a few days wondering quite what I could do about the pump shaft, I had a flash of inspiration while eating an egg sandwich..
If I make a new key out of brass I can slot it into the shaft and carefully back fill all the damage on the shaft with weld and then pop the brass key out as weld does not stick to brass.. Well, not the lump of brass I have!

The correct key and a bit of brass.




That was the plan anyway, as it turned out after I had filed the key way on the shaft so a key could actually slot in, I found the key was a rather nice tight fit in the shaft!

A big THANK YOU to Dave who was kind enough to let me keep this pulley which was on a gearbox I had sold him.. Cheers mateThumbs%20Up




I thought I would try the pulley on the shaft just to see how good a fit it was over the key... Ooo would you look at that, it's a nice tight fit!
Once the grub screw was tightened up there was no movement at all between the shaft and pulley!
That will do for me Thumbs%20Up




At long last a bit of luck, which is nice for a change..
And at long last the engine and trans are finally connected by a belt.




With a bit more luck the ol girl should be up and running tomorrow..

Woo hoo Big%20smile
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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 8:03am
It's alive!!!   Big%20smile

Seen here being test driven by Pete.








I think the grin on Pete's face says it all Big%20smile


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Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 4:30pm
A good result then, well done chaps

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Quote Stigian Replybullet Posted: 12 Sep 2013 at 6:11pm
Thanks Paul, it's been nice to be able to drive the GT about at last.. Thumbs%20Up

I know a few of you like/follow my video's, so here's part 1 and two of the engine swap videos..

http://youtu.be/n3vhxRbj0fs

http://youtu.be/mR5MWnGczrg


And the GT out for a longer drive.

http://youtu.be/tmv-JN1y4-U
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