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Quote simar kid Replybullet Topic: Atco Pedestrian tractor
    Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 6:23pm
Now heres some thing I was offered today whilst at the show. have not seen it but was told there was only another one in existence. anyone who can post a picture or give any info on this will be welcome. sounds rare so maybe I should follow up the lead.
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Quote jtg1 Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 6:54pm
kim grab it quick!!!
only other one i know of is brian carters,
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 6:59pm
right,will get onto it pronto.
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 7:47pm
been searching the web and actualy found mr carters tractor. I am getting exited now...........Must Get Out MORE
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Quote Andy Frost Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by simar kid

Now heres some thing I was offered today whilst at the show. have not seen it but was told there was only another one in existence. anyone who can post a picture or give any info on this will be welcome. sounds rare so maybe I should follow up the lead.


John , as said grab it , they are EXTREMELY rare , I know of a Suffolk collector who used to have one , what happened to it I don't know , that and the pictured one are the only two I've ever heard of.

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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 8:05pm
Andy, have made contact with owner and will be seeing it soon. what engine was it that was fitted. possibly a large Villiers two stroke   ?
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Quote Andy Frost Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 8:10pm
John , I've never seen one in the flesh , but from the picture it could well be a B series Villiers (Twostroke of course) , maybe the same engine as some of the Rowtracs had , but possibly fitted with what may have been Atcos own cowling design.
Atco had a long asscoiation with Villiers , and many were badged Atco/Villiers , but I suspect this may not be the case here , as so few tractors were made.

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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 8:14pm
what do you know about the availability of parts if its the engine you suspect that it may be ?
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Quote Andy Frost Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 8:39pm
Very hard to come by John , ignition parts are easy , but internals are rare.........but nothing is impossible , for a machine this rare parts would be worth having made.

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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 8:49pm
right got the essence of that.its all worth remembering when trying to cut a deal,i am just wanting to see now whats missing and seized etc. gratefull for your advice andy.
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Quote Dieselhead Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 9:05pm
Just you wait, more will turn up now. Just like mayfield merlins didLOL
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Quote jim beacon Replybullet Posted: 08 Sep 2013 at 10:45pm
Another fairly rare machine in that picture - there is an Auto Culto Deluxe visible in the background (or at least teh handlebars are!).
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 09 Sep 2013 at 8:39am
I believe Brian Carters machine was rescued from a bramble patch, so you can guess what that was like before restoration.
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 09 Sep 2013 at 7:04pm
with lots of hard work and a jolly good search around for parts most things are do able. noticed the paint is very close to sage green. was this the first colour atco used before the present one.
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Quote wristpin Replybullet Posted: 09 Sep 2013 at 9:24pm
Depends a bit what you mean by the present one. The machines bearing the Atco name that are in current production are nothing to do with the old Atco/Bosch company but are made by Global Garden Products who purchased the rights to the Atco name and they are basically re-badged Stigas. The old range of Atco cylinder mowers are now manufactured by Alletts who bought the design and manufacturing rights but not the name!
If you look at Central Spares' paint catalogue they list Atco Royale Green (the newer and brighter green) and just plain Atco Green (the older and "muddier" green) but allowing for variations in colour reproduction the colour of the Atco two wheeled tractor in the above post is not either of those two greens, so unless Atco used a special colour for that model it would appear that it may not be correct - please note "appears" and "may" - the owner of the machine may well know otherwise.  
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Quote hdtrust Replybullet Posted: 13 Sep 2013 at 1:04am
Hiding on my shelves in the H&D Trusts library, is a original brochure from the Atco Tractor along with every brochure for the Atco Impeller engines - well out of reach from the paws of Mr Wallingfield!
I too ,know the existence of an engine which came out of one which use to reside near to Chesterfield
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 13 Sep 2013 at 6:34am
Andrew, Christmas comes but once a year and with it brings all good cheer. now,is there a possibility a copy could be done if a change of owner develops ? Help from a fellow Yorkshire Man would be a bonus as I could be floundering without them.
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Quote hortiman Replybullet Posted: 13 Sep 2013 at 8:15pm
Hi John.
If all else fails, I have an original brochure/catalogue hiding in my barn too,
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 13 Sep 2013 at 8:45pm
great lets see what happens in 10 days or so.
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 06 Oct 2013 at 6:37am
just a final update on the find of this machine. went to see it and decided it was not for me as its been stood outside for to long. but someone will take it on I am sure.was honoured to be asked to purchase it as like many have said,its extremely rare.
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Quote owen Replybullet Posted: 06 Oct 2013 at 7:35am
Originally posted by simar kid

just a final update on the find of this machine. went to see it and decided it was not for me as its been stood outside for to long. but someone will take it on I am sure.was honoured to be asked to purchase it as like many have said,its extremely rare.

That's a shame John, Win some lose some.
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 06 Oct 2013 at 7:59am
John, any photos? Was it like the one owned by Brian Carter? Does owner want it advertising in The Cultivator?
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 06 Oct 2013 at 8:42am
The machine charlie was like brians .it even had the same cultivator on it.the only part which was not there was the front weight but one could be made. Will ask if he wants to advertise but he offered it to me as he had admired my other projects.
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 8:04pm
It is a machine that needs saving as it is only the second one known to exist I believe.
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Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 8:13pm
Might be worth taking it off the chaps hands John, and then its saved, you can always pass it on to another collector...

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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 08 Oct 2013 at 7:37pm
Will have a chat with him later. I think he wants me to have it but the parts thing is very sketchy
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Quote simar kid Replybullet Posted: 17 Oct 2013 at 8:16pm
bumped into the atco guy today and he definatley wants me to have it,does anyone know please the size of the tyre because this machine was made 1930 or there about and maybe the size could be obsolete. these are one of the problems with taking on an old machine for restoration.
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