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steve.woollas
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Quote steve.woollas Replybullet Topic: BARFORD ATOM DATING
    Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 8:31pm
Before anyone asks this is not a Barford Atom dating site but can anyone help with determing the age of our Atom 15?
The Barford Agricultural plate reads A3664. Using a formula we use one some products at work this could mean Atom week 36 Year 1964. But doe's it?
The Villiers Mk 12 HS engine plate reads 653A 29159. Is the 53 or the 59 significant in dating the engine?
Any knowledge on dating either the machine or the engine would be appreciated--Steve
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Quote pmackellow Replybullet Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 8:58pm
Charlies your man for Barford Atom info Steve

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Quote will_haggle Replybullet Posted: 26 Sep 2013 at 10:56pm
Have a look under the starting pulley - there should be a date on the flywheel. the 653A is a code that Villiers used to describe the differences from a standard motor, same as the type number on the end of a JAP engine number.
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Quote steve.woollas Replybullet Posted: 29 Sep 2013 at 7:07pm
Hello Alan, Thanks for your response. Removed the starter pulley today and sure enough a dated number was present. "50", so I presume we can safely dating the engine to 1950 which ties in well with the production dates for the machine.
Other wording included "Villiers Eng Ltd"
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Quote will_haggle Replybullet Posted: 29 Sep 2013 at 7:48pm
Yes, my Colwood has 55 on it so that ties up as well...
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Quote Charlie Replybullet Posted: 30 Sep 2013 at 8:53am
Sorry but cannot offer any further advice regarding dating. However I have recently bought a Barford Power Scythe sales leaflet which has Barford of Belton Limited on it and is dated 12/58, the interesting thing is, 'of Belton' has been printed over the word 'Agricultural'.
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