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Topic: 1972 Mowett Mustang
Posted By: alan
Subject: 1972 Mowett Mustang
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2007 at 10:28am
Yes, I know it looks like someone made it out of a few scraps of steel and a spare engine in a late-night garage experiment but it really is a genuine garden tractor. It's a Mowett Mustang from the US.



The wheels, seat, engine and steering wheel are genuine original parts although they appear to be bits that have been used from other machines.
The gearbox is the bit in front of the seat and has Forward-Neutral-Reverse. To go faster you rev the engine a bit more, obviously it goes as fast in reverse as forwards. It's chain driven and really is quite a dangerous machine as there's a distinct lack of safety guards and no brakes and it's only 40 inches long so not the most comfortable of machines. But it's great fun!

There's a mower deck that bolts under the chassis - blade bolts straight onto the bottom of the engine drive shaft.

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Update: It's now been painted and awaiting a new exhaust and decals:















Will 'Number 5' come in please...... (5hp that is - there was also a 7hp and an 8hp.....)







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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2008 at 12:51pm
Is the yellow/silver/white livery the original? Or was the green the correct colour?


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2008 at 9:46pm
Hi

The green paint it was covered in was like treacle! The original colours were yellow and silver as the tractor is now. It is International Harvester yellow, Silver Smoothrite spray, and white radiator enamel for the engine. It looks pretty good.

I'm sure that most of the tractors were yellow when new, I've seen a few pictures of red, blue and white Mustangs but they appear to have been painted at some point.


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2008 at 10:23pm
Hi, can you tell me if the box on the rear axle is a differential gear? I have seen an almost identical Mustang mower for sale but it seems to have a fixed rear axle with a toothed cog welded directly to it. I am thinking this will cause serious problems with cornering but it may not be a problem as the wheels are so small and it runs on grass anyway. Thanks.


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2008 at 10:26pm
Hi,

You are right! There is a rear diff on the back axle, however it was apparently an optional extra and so some won't have it.

I have never had any problems with it cornering as the wheels are small, I guess  that it would be an advantage when mowing lawns as the wheels wouldn't then damage the grass on cornering.

Thanks. Alan


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2008 at 1:30pm
hi there ive just got a mowett mustang and in the process of restoring hope you could tell us a few things about it it runs an go's  good im sanding it down hope to hear from u cheers


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 1:09pm

Hi Nick, When i first got the Mustang I did a fair bit of searching on the internet for some info, however there isn't much available on these little machines.

The company apparently ceased trading eventually (no idea why, when or how) and the remainder of the parts etc were sold off to a private individual as far as I could make out. They were made in Odessa Missouri and guess there must have been a small factory of some sort (anybody know?).

There was just one model made (again anyone know anymore?) and it's the one that you will have!

I did find some sales info on the internet that sheds a bit of light on them. I found that most people think that the machines were 1960's  but I rather think that they were more probably early 1970's to the mid 1980's. The sales info (in a magazine) was dated 1985. Mine was said to be 1972 but since it had a replacement engine cover (code date 1981) I'm unsure but guess it will be later than 1972, may even be early 80's.

They were available with 5hp or 7hp engines, and electric start as an option. The battery fits beneath the seat somehow in photos I've seen. Someone somewhere said that an 8hp was available too.

When delivered (or bought or whatever) they must have been in a crate of some description as the steering wheel was separate and had to be bolted on when unpacking.

Mower decks were 24 inch with obviously a single blade bolted to the bottom of the engine, so in effect when the engine is running then the blade is running too, must have been a bit dicey driving across a gravel drive to get to a lawn then, guess there would be a few chippings flying about. Cutting height of between 1.5" to 3.5" and the height is altered by adding extra spacers (washers I'd guess, but may have been specially supplied 1/4" nylon rings) between the blade and engine shaft to make the blade closer to the ground.  

Top speed of approx. 3.5 miles per hour. Single speed forwards and single reverse.

Nylon bearings used on the rear wheels and no lubrication required here. About twice a year the drive chain should be oiled.

The best bit though is all the attachments, I wonder though if anybody bought any of the following: Snow plough, dual rear wheels, grass collector, luxury padded seat with spring mounting (would be a good investment on these tractors actually). Also a high-speed cog to make it go faster, also a trailer, a powered lawn rake, lawn sprayer and pneumatic tyres.

I painted the Mustang in International Harvester yellow as it was a very good match. The rest is silvery/grey as the original base colour paint was under the later paint coat. I know that some were white instead of grey too and that the wheels were the same white. I painted the wheels yellow as it looks quite good!


If you've got any more info then I'd be pleased to know. Any photos as well would be great.

Alan




Posted By: Dodgeboy222
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2008 at 1:09am
Hi, I have a mowett mustang no. 7 in the process of being restored.  I got to run but not for long.  i have to clean out the carb. any tips for cleaning it? and also, where did you get the decals for it?


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2008 at 5:33pm
I recall that the my mustang possibly had a Pulsa-jet carburetor and although I never dismantled it, there are quite a lot of parts so be careful that none get lost, think there's a couple of internal springs too.

It's possible to get some carb cleaner which is worth a try before resorting to  taking the carb apart. There is also a thin rubber diaphragm as part of the fuel tank/carb setup and this can get worn and lead to problems. Most Briggs engine parts are easy to get.

The website   http://www.small-engines.com/ - http://www.small-engines.com/  is worth a look.


I had the decals for the mustang made by a local car graphics company. The originals should say 'Manufactured by Mowett Sales Co.....'etc but this is hard to replicate so mine just said 'Mustang' much easier! The decals for the engine may possibly be available on the internet now but I couldn't get any and so I found some pictures of the vintage Briggs logos on an engine website and then had them printed on adhesive waterproof paper and they look great.












Posted By: Dodgeboy222
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2008 at 12:17am

Hi Alan,

I just wanted to tell you that the no. 7 mustang doesn't have a pulsa-jet carb. or a diaphram. the carb is on the oposite side of the where the gas tank is.  But thank you anyways for the helpful tips!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2009 at 10:59pm
hi their i would like to know if u could buy these mowett mustangs in australia and how much one would set me back (cost) thanks


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2009 at 11:24am
Hi

I recently sold my restored yellow Mustang (that's the one in this forum thread). I sold it to a racing boat restorer (think the boats will go a bit faster than the Mustang though!) and I got 180 GBP for it which I thought was a good price. That is about 375 AUD using the rates conversion calculator today.

There isn't a lot to them. Very basic mechanics and it would actually be possible to build your own similar machine if you needed to since it's only got one forward gear and so apart from reverse there's little need for a gearbox, although some gearing or speed reduction would be advisable between the engine and driven axle.

I have had quite a few messages from people about the Mustang, but none from Australia so not sure if they were ever shipped there. 

Since I have many photos of the actual construction of the Mustang (to help me rebuild it!!) here is how it works. The engine is connected by a single belt to the pulley beneath the gearbox. A belt tightener on an 'L' shaped bracket is pivoted - you can see where it attaches just under the top left under the gearbox pulley, this tightener is connected by a long shaft (with the red arrow) to the single pedal - remember there are no brakes on Mustangs. At the other side of the belt tightener bracket is a return spring.

The drive from the gearbox pulley is transfered directly through the gearbox to the top side of the tractor then the drive is chain driven back through to the rear axle.



The steering is very basic too, but ingenious all the same! Note that the frame is just steel channel construction (very lightweight) and were reinforced with wood sections to give it some rigidity.






Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2009 at 3:51pm
Been reading through all your comments on the MOWETT MUSTANG.
                      MOWETT SALES CO, INC
                            110W. MASON
                            P. O. BOX 218
                         Odessa. MO 64076.
There is a very good sorce of information on assembly and settings for these machines.
The book or books you want are published by
     PRIMEDIA Information Data Products.      primediabooks.com
CLYMER ProSeries. Riding Lawn Mower. Volume 1 & 2.
For all American made Ride-On's.
                                           or
CLYMER ProSeries. Yard & Garden Tractor. Volume 1, 2 & 3.
For all American made Lawn Tractors.
These books cover all the American made or derived machines avalable in the 'UK' and Europe.
I found my copy's on AMAZON


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2009 at 2:42am
Howdy Namez Austin, i have a pair of these myself and was wondering if you could just remove the blade and blade deck, my grandad said it might act as a kind of 2nd flywheel but i still want to bring it to a tractor show we go to often and to do so i need to remove the blade. hears a picture of my 2



the one on the left was bought at a yard sale and the right was found in a neighbor's shed and given to me as a pet project. i still have yet to do any major work to it thats just how i found it.

yes the 8hp models exsist because i saw one at a tractor show last year. quite the fun thing to mow a lawn actualy, unless the wood has rotted out from between the frame and it twists all the time.

my cousin desided to try and pull it backwards with me on it, and sucseeded.
lol it was hilarious.

do you have any information on what colors they came in origanaly?

and did they use any other engine's than Briggs's?

mine are both Briggs 7 but i am just curious.

oh and on a side note, they have 2 different geer box's on them, and yours has a different one two now that i look, i will get a picture for u soon if you are curious.


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2009 at 12:15pm
Hi Austin,

I'm actually amazed how many Mustangs are out there! I wonder if their main attraction was the cheap price as they aren't the most technically advanced machine.

They are really good fun to drive around on, bit frightening as the engine is between the knees and a blade beneath the feet. Vague steering too, and a flexible frame if the wood supports have rotted!! Those were the days before 'Health and Safety' mattered!!

I think that all the Mustangs were yellow. I may be proved wrong though! The wheels and frames were either white or silver, although some did have yellow wheels too.  I also think that they used Briggs engines and nothing else as I've not heard of any others being used.

I ran mine without the blade and mower deck and it was perfectly ok. Although I think the deck may have given some support to the machine. I'd take it off as it will be ok.

My Mustang has the rear diff on the back axle, but I never knew that there were different gearboxes too. Learn something new everyday!

Great to see your tractors!

Alan




Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2009 at 4:39am
I'm gonna take one of mine and make it mean.

custom pipe (prolly an old exaust tip) added on and bent to go up and outward at a 60 ish degree angle

bigger rear wheels that i will rob from an old junker at my grandad's shop.

if i can find one i will attack a slightly quicker geerbox unless the bigger tires make it run quick enough for my likeing.

re-line the fram with wood (or whatever i have lieing around)

add a starter, i already got an alternator asembly and flywheel (with starter teeth) from a different briggs 7, now i just need a battery and a starter.

and headlamps, got to have headlamps on a mean little mower.

i'll send pics, i'm just trickin it out, not boreing engine or putting a bigger one on it, just makeing it a bit more countryfied because thats how we do things hear in virginia


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2009 at 9:18am

That sounds like it will be fun!

We actually had an Atco ride-on-mower with a bad engine and I managed to fit a 6hp Robin engine into it. Changed the gearing a bit and fitted a speedometer from a bike.

The Atco was designed to do 6mph when new but we managed to get it to do 27mph. It was quite frightening as there was no suspension and the steering wasn't very good at high speeds. Also the brakes didn't work at all when it was going fast, just had to change down gear and hope nothing broke!

Painted it bright red and sold it in the end before I had an accident!

Would have looked great if we had spent a bit more time on the paint and done some other cosmetic bits to it.

It was a great summer project and we had great fun too.





Alan


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2009 at 3:47am
cooooooool! But, i would never race one of these mustangs without serious work first.

actualy i doubt a mustang would even hold up to the kind of stress from going even 15mph, there just not built for it, specialy sence they don't have brakes u know.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2009 at 2:34am
I just bought one of these Mowett Mustangs for $80. it is in really good condition and runs great. I don't think it is the original engine though, it has a 3.5 HP Briggs and Straton. Anyone know if they came with this engine?


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2009 at 11:07pm
Hi, these Mustang mowers are quite similar to the Huffy range of very small ride on mowers built in the States around the 60s and 70s. I think the main difference is the build quality, or rather the build complexity. The Huffy mowers had lever adjustable decks, multiple gears, brakes and pnuematic tyres etc.
There is, however, a certain attraction in the sheer simplicity of the Mustang. I am considering making my own tiny ride on mower based on the simple design of the Mustang. The only thing I am having trouble locating is a small forward/reverse gearbox with vertical drive input and horizontal output and a small differential for the axle. If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them. The rest I can fabricate myself but machining gears is beyond me! I have thought about using a friction drive system as used in the early Snapper rear engine ride-on mowers, which could also incorporate an element of variable gearing, but the differential gear problem remains. I also had the idea of incorporating a grass collection system under the bonnet, as there is a considerable amount of unused space under there with the engine being so far back. Any thoughts on gearing would be greatly appreciated.
Jonny


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2009 at 10:28am

Hi

Just to reply to Scott first (above post), As far as I know they only came as 5hp and 8hp. Looks like there's been a 3.5hp lawnmower engine put in yours but it should work perfectly ok!

Jonny, I think it would be a great project to build a small tractor. I'm actually considering building one myself. I had wanted to create a minature version of a David Brown tractor we once had, but then technical details set in!

I came to the conclusion that I can fabricate the steering, the framework, stick an engine in it and get drive to the rear axle but then I'd need a gearbox. The easiest solution for me is to get a ride-on mower (Atco I guess - see above post with red mean machine tractor) and then build the tractor shell around it. BUT...it would be much more fun (and taxing) to start from the ground up and build it all.

I think that I'm going to have to get a Peerless gearbox from a ride-on and then work back from there at least I shall be sure that I have gears and some element of brakes. It may also be possible for you to get a gearbox from a John Deere lawnmower (JX80 or similar) some of these have a small gearbox and are powered by 6hp Kawasaki engine - just a thought.

I do have a 1992 Toro rear engined rider mower which has a pretty smart gearbox/clutch set up and would be great to copy.

Let me know how you get along.

Alan





Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2009 at 5:44pm
Hi Alan, certainly the easiest solution is a ride on mower transaxle gearbox. Most of them include a small disc brake and are set up for easy connection to a horizontal shaft engine. The gear ratio to the gearbox is obviously easy to adjust with the size of pully used. I too thought of making a small garden tractor with larger rear wheels with proper cleated tyres. The bonnet and wings would be very easy to fabricate. Perhaps one of the various rotovator or powered wheelbarrow setups would be a good donor. I must say I prefer the idea of manufacturing the entire machine, but the advantage of a transaxle, with the gears, differential, axle and brake all in one unit is just too good to ignore. I suppose for a true garden tractor that is built to work the ground you could get by with a fixed axle and single pulley or worm gear drive. It would give great traction but be a pig to steer, and no reverse, although I have seen a simple device for the old Merry Tiller rotovators that reverses drive quite simply, but that would mean using a horizontal drive engine. I will continue to ponder!! Might even build something one day!
Jonny


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2009 at 4:04am
Hey, Im glad I found this. I also have a Mowett Mustang Witha 5 horse. I even live in the town they were made in. Odessa,Missouri 64076. I even know where the old factory it was made in is located.

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Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 21 May 2009 at 6:52am
I have a yellow 7. I've had it for years. I also need some info about the tranny. I'd like to the repair the original gearbox.

I've do a google search every once in a while about this mower, and this is the first time i've found a real discussion about this mower..

I had the owners manual at one time, but I think it got away from me.




Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 21 May 2009 at 10:08am

Hi

It's amazing how many of these Mustangs are out there!

Unfortunately I don't have a manual or any other printed material about this machine but I'm sure somebody out there has and it would be really good to put some on here.

I never took my transmission apart (which is unusual for me as I like to know how things work) although it did have the small cog welded back together so must have been damaged at some point and it also had a crack on the casting near one of the mounting bolts.

I'm guessing it should be easy to take apart and repair. Not sure who the manufacturer of the transmission was.

If you ever come across the manual then it would be great to see it.

Alan

Does anyone on the forum know if this transmission was used anywhere else? It's only got single speed forward and reverse and must have been a generic part. It just bolts onto the top of the chassis and chain-drives the rear axle.






Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 May 2009 at 4:42am
What's up

First post here so if I mess it up go easy on me.

I have a Mustang 7. I purchased it from my grandfather about 2 years ago. It has been in the family forever and it was just sitting there rusting away.

Unfortunatly, since I have had it the transmission has gone out. I am trying to find a new one but so far everyone I ask in my area just gives me a dumb look and tries to give me a car part.


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 22 May 2009 at 8:45pm

Hi Mattman

I've yet to discover the manufacturer of this transmission. It's probably an already existing part that Mowett borrowed from another application and used on their machines as I wouldn't have thought that they'd go to the expense of having a specific one made - but we never know!!

Not sure how hard they'll be to dismantle and repair, shouldn't hurt giving it a go!

Alan




Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 May 2009 at 1:12am
Hey,
Thanks for the greeting.

This will be my first mower to restore as well as my very first riding mower. I would love to try and rebuild the transmission but I am not sure if I should.    It isn't the original one that came on the mower. If I can't find one in the next month or so I will probably rebuild it as a temporary fix.

Matt


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2009 at 12:59am
Hello first time posting.
 
I have taken it upon myself to restore my great-uncle's Mowett Mustang for my grandfather. He got it when my great uncle passed. Unfurtunately my uncle was storing it & had it in a few peices when I got ahold of it. The steering wheel, throttle(to include everything that doesn't bolt directly to the motor) , gas cap, and fuel line are MIA. The "hood" was pretty mangled and the bottom brackets on it were broken of. I have smoothed out most of the "hood" and the break in the brackets appears clean enough to weld back on. I think the gas cap and fuel line I can get by looking up the motor, but I am having trouble figuring out where I can get a replacement steering wheel and throttle that looks stock. Any suggestions? Does anyone know if the gearbox needs to be serviced?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2009 at 6:28am
I just stumbled across this site while looking for info on this little lawn mower I have...
 
I saw one when I was a kid at a lawn mower race event.  I thought it was just a custom jobber.  Then, several years later I realized my brother in law's parents had one, and I got to ride it around (it actually mowed grass then).  A few months later, my brother in law noticed the crankshaft pulley was cracked, so he took it off (and lost it, of course) so it sat under a tree for years on end.  I told him I wanted it for a project, and after a few months of bothering him about it, he reluctantly gave it to me.  After I got it, I looked closely and noticed the word "Mustang" barely visible on the factory yellow paint.  It had been painted before, but someone taped off the "Mustang" logo.
 
I got it running, (5 HP model) but the crank pulley and blade was still missing.  I ended up finding a generic pulley at a tractor supply store, but it kept throwing the belt.  The tensioner pulley came off of the bearing, and the gearbox pulley was slightly bent.  At that point, I pretty much lost interest in it, and it just sat there in the garage.
 
A few days ago while doing some pasture shredding for a friend, I noticed he had what looked to be an 8 HP Mustang under an old shed.  I didn't ask him about it, but it did spark up some interest in mine again... so here I am.
 
Now that I think about it, I can recall gathering parts to build a go-kart many years ago.  Someone gave me what they thought was a front end for a go-kart, but it was actually the front end for a Mustang.  It is laying somewhere around here... possibly good for parts.
 
 
Before I forget: While I was doing some google-ing, I came across this.  Maybe someone could grab these before they end up being scrapped??
 
(not mine)
 
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/grd/1174977939.html - http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/grd/1174977939.html


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2009 at 7:48am

I was looking through the pages of my copy of the Clymer ProSeries RIDING LAWNMOWER                    ( scroll back up 18 items ) for reference to something else and after read through the section on the Mowlett Mustang.

There is a small reference to the Transmission saying that it is a FOOTE one or two speed Transmission and refer to the transmission section for repair.

Referring to the transmission section it says that it is a FOOTE Type '35 or 3500' One or Two Forward Speed and Reverse Transmission and is as complicated as a two piece jigsaw.



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Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2009 at 11:30am

Thats excellent info as I did think it was probably made by another company but had no idea.

I have never seen anything like it before or since either on the internet or on another machine, have never heard of FOOTE before so will perhaps do a search.

Thanks for that.

Alan


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2009 at 7:26am
Alan
Foote made the gear box for the WHEEL HORSE B 111 Six Speed and became part of peerless


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 2:11am
Update on my grandfather's Mustang.
 
Got the wrong gas cap.Cry 
  -But it fits an older rotortiller with a Briggs motorLOL
The fuel line is on after cleaning the output from the tank and input to the carb. put oil in it, cleaned off the sparkplug & its cord, and it fired off after a few tries. Not bad for sitting in the elements for a few years.
 
Float may not work as gas continued to drip out the back of the carb when I stopped the motor.
 
----Float and bowl needed to be cleaned off but now need to get a new gasket


Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2009 at 5:46am
I remember seeing those transmissions on some Tillers back in the 70's.. Heck they may have been 60's tillers. 


Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2009 at 5:59am
Foote was All I needed..

I found it !!!!!!!!!!

A transmission parts list and diagram.  It looks easy.

http://www.outdoordistributors.com/pdf/FOOTE/FOOTE-35_3500.pdf - http://www.outdoordistributors.com/pdf/FOOTE/FOOTE-35_3500.pdf


Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2009 at 6:34am
Here's a link to some Mustang parts on craigslist.

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/grd/1174977939.html - http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/grd/1174977939.html

There's a tranny included.




Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 11:06pm
Does anyone know why some of these have a differential gear and some don't. Also where the differential gear is made?


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 11:07pm
Also, if anyone has experience of running one with and one without, does it make a lot of difference. I am guessing that turning would be quite hard without the diff and probably damage the lawn.


Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2009 at 7:26am
The slick grass makes turning without a diff easy. The hard rear tires slip on the freshly mowed grass.

I've used mine. It's a bumpy ride. Your yard needs to be really smooth for best results.






Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2009 at 6:05pm
Well I have my grandfather's Mustang running AND it is able to steer.
 
The float ended up having corrosion on it so I got a rebuild kit for the carb at the same time as the float; and was glad I did.
 
Due to a lack of info, both here and the web, I made the steering wheel out of the lower half of a junk mic stand and the handle bars off a rusted out bicycle. I pounded the sleeve into the lower half, grinded the other end to fit the curve of the handle bars, and welded the 2. Looks good.
 
I still need to repaint it but here's it after that and 2 rounds with engine degreaser and a none electric pressure washer; minus the hood because the hood needs to be straightened out some more & bottom brackets re-welded


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 12:09am
Hi, nice to see the deck is all original. You probably know this but I thought I would mention with you talking about straightening the frame that they had timber pieces in the steel chanel to add rigidity. If this has rotted out the frame will be very whippy! If it is missing or rotten, I suppose it would be fairly simple to plane some timber to fit. I would use hardwood, just for longevity and strength. Best of luck with the little mower. Jonny.


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2009 at 2:30pm
Hi, you might like to look at the following clips on Youtube,
Mike's Hot Rod Lawn Mower
Mowett Mustang Project
 
Both well worth a look!!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 7:33am
Thanks for reminding me about the wood; had read that tid bit when first looking at this forum. I will find out if there is any wood in the channels when I take it apart to repaint. My Grandpa says he wants it the original colors. I don't know where Alan got Silver from, maybe different years/models got different colors, but by looking at this Mustang it colors are simply Yellow and White.
 
If there isn't any wood in it I may not put any in as I took it out for a test run once the welding had cooled, and I didn't notice any flex in it when I climbed from level ground to an almost 35 degree slope.
 
Also, Johnny, I didn't notice any destuction to the lawn with this solid axeled Mustang but it has a noticably wide turning raduis, at least to me 1st time on riding lawn mower, due to the fact its front wheels slide forward as much as they turn the mower. Hopefully a Diff. allows it to turn smoother and removes the sliding forward aspect.


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 7:47am
Hi David, I don't have a Mustang yet but I am looking at a few that are available. I just wondered if the lack of a diff was a real problem. It's probably not, but I know what you mean about the front wheels turning and the back wheel, on a fixed axle, wanting to keep going straight! I have ridden a cheap chinese quad with no diff and it did the same thing, but it is probably less of a problem on grass. I just love the simplicity of these tiny Mustangs and they are so cute!! Also I don't have a huge amount of lawn so this size would be ideal for me. As for the wood, if it works ok without I would leave it out, the thing might be more prone to rust with wood holding moisture agains the inside of the steel channel. Anyway, good luck with it and I hope to buy a Mustang and put some pics up soon.   Jonny


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 7:50am
PS a good tip from one of the youtube vids above is to use white radiator enamel for all the white bits. That stuff is very tough, can handle heat and is designed not to discolour easily. Worth a try! I am sure that you could get a very similar yellow without going to the trouble of getting IH Yellow.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 7:52am
Wow that was fast I thought I might want to reread the forum for your comments incase I had made such an error and you caught me before for I finished editing my mistake.


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2009 at 6:44pm

Hello everyone

I'm just catching up with a few questions about the Mustang.

My Mustang was silver when we stripped off the old green paint - however most others are white. Not sure if mine had been painted silver by a previous owner but there was no sign of white on the wheels or chassis.

I used white radiator paint for the Briggs engine and it gave fantastic results - I recommend painting outside as the paint fumes are terrible!!

Pictures of steering assembly:



Steering below - also note the timber strengthening in the right-hand channel...



Rear diff: (no idea of manufacturer).



Showing steering wheel below: (note that I did put some foot rests on this tractor from a Webb greens mower also the white 'radiator painted' engine)



Image below of Foote 35 gearbox from a PDF (link somewhere on this thread). I did notice that on the PDF it says that they were manufactured for Mowett Manufacturing and Sales Inc in the years 1969 - 1972 so was this the years the tractors were made or did they have a huge batch of these gearboxes produced that lasted them for years and years of tractor production??



Any more info greatly received!

Alan





Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2009 at 2:29am
I have a few old mowers and I think I have one that has just a forward and reverse on it I will go out to my storage and look it will be saturday the 11 of july be for I get a chance to look and if you are interseted let me know ok. I myself have a mustang that I have been trying to get it restore but I haven't yet I did think about selling it once but I did not my wife says its an eye sore and I said no it's class   jeremy


Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2009 at 3:26pm
I have put a photo of another Mustang spotted at the recent Ardingly Vintage Show on this forum...


Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 9:05pm
Is this the most viewed topic ever on the forum ?? The number of hits is amazing !!!


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 10:30pm

Yes it does appear to be popular!! Obviously more Mowett Mustangs about than we ever knew of.

There does seem to be an extraordinary number of searches for this machine, but surprisingly the most popular search according to Google for this forum and website is for "Trusty"!

Alan







Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 10:36pm
Are you sure thats not "Rusty"??


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:49am
Possibly!!

Originally posted by pmackellow

Are you sure thats not "Rusty"??





Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 4:31pm
Just reading the latest Tractor and Machinery (September 2009 issue), there is an article on the Mustang pages 128 - 129
Paul


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 7:24pm

Thanks for that Paul, I went and read the article which was quite interesting.

Although it says that it's generally unknown when these tractors were made, many will be able to be dated from their Briggs engines.

I haven't done much research on these little tractors but I'm intrigued as to how so many of them got across to the UK and managed to survive for so long. Being cute might have helped!!!!!

Alan


Posted By: Trusty Bloke
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2009 at 9:14pm
 
I'm not sure but there's one of these for sale on Ebay at the moment ??
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-TOY-TRACTOR-WITH-PETROL-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ320424717669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL?hash=item4a9acd2d65&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-TOY-TRACTOR-WITH-PETROL-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ320424717669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL?hash=item4a9acd2d65&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
 
Currently on 26 with just under 8 days to go .......
 


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May the Farce Be With You...
Lord Melchett: "If nothing else works , a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2009 at 10:35pm

Yes it's a Mustang alright!

Bizarre as it may seem the one that I bought (off Ebay) came from Pontefract just like this one is too. Perhaps that's where they multiply in the UK?!

This one has electric start and the flat piece of steel plate hanging over the rear is where the battery goes.

Alan




Posted By: Trusty Bloke
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2009 at 10:53pm
 
I thought I was right, although still being the forums most popular posting
at over 6800 viewings and 57 replies. We all should be able to recognise
them by now !
It's quite a nice paint job aswell isn't it ??
 
Although I think the item description is a little off the mark (IMO), when
he says that "PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT A RIDE ON MOWER WITH DECK
TAKEN OFF IT IS A SPECIALLY MADE TOY & ABOUT HALF THE SIZE OF A
RIDE ON MOWER"


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A drink's too wet without one ;-) - Southampton
May the Farce Be With You...
Lord Melchett: "If nothing else works , a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."


Posted By: Dodgeboy222
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2009 at 3:11am
I have a No. 7 and it doesn't have an axel diff. on it and it wore the rear tires out, right now they are pretty much racing slicks! And they sort of wore out the fronts too for pushing it forward on cement.  I'm looking for some wheels for it but its very difficut to find some.  Maybe I will have to find the whole rear axel (with a diff) on ebay or something.
 
 


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2009 at 10:44am

I just had another look at this Mowett Mustang:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-TOY-TRACTOR-WITH-PETROL-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ320424717669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL?hash=item4a9acd2d65&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-TOY-TRACTOR-WITH-PETROL-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ320424717669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL?hash=item4a9acd2d65&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

on Ebay which Trusty Bloke pointed out in September.

This is it:



I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that it had made 256 unrestored (that's currently 409.00 USD). It's not often that I'm lost for words but that is quite a lot!!

Alan







Posted By: Trusty Bloke
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2009 at 11:47am
 
Yes, quite unbelieveable isn't it !
There were 11 different bidders, obvously quite a following here in the UK.
Nice to see the seller took notice of my e-mail with the make/model for him
to add to the description ...... maybe that drew in a few more bidders ??
Who knows............ ??


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A drink's too wet without one ;-) - Southampton
May the Farce Be With You...
Lord Melchett: "If nothing else works , a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."


Posted By: COOTER
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 3:18am
I just received a Mowett Mustang from a 92 year old who promised it to me years ago. Didn't run, but after overhauling the carb, and reworking some parts, it worked well enough to cut a 5 acre yard. This tractor has a very unique hood ornament. I've never seen a mustang with one before, but afer emailing, and calling to the town it was manufactured in, I was told a handful of the early models did have ornaments. Either way, I find it quite a find. It's even more unique than my ' 54 Hiller Yard Hand tractor. I'm enjoying my new hobby.............COOTER 


Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 8:29am
_popupControl(); Five acres most of us would call that a feild ! but testiment to the mowlett mustang, and your repairs Clap

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Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2009 at 6:27pm
It must be five "smooth" acres.. These things need a softer seat.
Congrats on a great find.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 at 6:16am
Hi all! I recently received a mustang mower. So is there anywhere were I can purchase parts? I am thinking about restoring the tractor.


Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 at 7:13am
_popupControl(); welcome to the forum jspurlock, what parts are you requiring then hopfully we can point you in the right direction Thumbs%20Up

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 at 5:56pm
I just need the pulleys, peddles, and a mow deck if I could get a hold of one.

EDIT: And maybe the tires too... Mine are very shot.


Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2009 at 10:06pm
Hello jspurlock, nice to see a new face on the forum
For parts for your Mowett Mustang all I can suggest is try Lawn and Garden Collector magazine, an email to the editor, Kate, might give you some leads, lagc_kate@yahoo.com
Good Luck
Paul

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2009 at 8:40pm
Great thanks a ton! I am looking forward to restoring this a ton!


Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2009 at 9:01pm
No problem, good luck with your restoration

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Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2009 at 9:11pm

Hi Jspurlock

I guess the pulleys will be easy to get new ones, they are pretty standard things. The last ones I had for a machine (a Wheelhorse as it happens) turned out to be standard size and then the company just drilled out the centres to the correct shaft diameter.

Tyres though will be harder to get. As you know they are hard rubber that is bonded around a pressed steel centre. Some Mustangs had optional (and highly recommended!) pneumatic tyres although I don't know what they were like, mine just had the hard rubber ones.

Alan


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2009 at 12:43pm
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/grd/1431975325.html - http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/grd/1431975325.html
here is my mustang i am selling.it is all original except for the clutch peddles


Posted By: series1gem
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2010 at 11:01pm
if you want decals for the engines type briggs decal into ebay and it will bring up some from the usa very reasonably priced

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 6:14am
Just came across a mowette mustang in Austalia!. The owner was nice enough to give it to me. I figured out later on as i was pulling the spark plug out that the engine was full of water, and would need a complete rebuild. Im in the middle of doing that now and looking forward to restoring this little beauty. Ill try and get some photos up soon.


Posted By: series1gem
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 10:56am
will lok forward to seeing them

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If it isnt orange it isnt a rotavator


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2010 at 5:05am
finally got around to uploading these photos of my mustang. different sticker to the other mustangs on this forum?green painted motor? all is original as far as i can tell.motor was full of water unfortunately. from years of sitting in the weather.   


Posted By: nwales1
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 6:12pm
These Mowett Mustangs were exhibited at the Anglesey Vintage Rally in May 2009.  They belong to Vic Tolhurst from Amlwch, Anglesey, who was the Horticultural Steward.
 
 
Jean


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:22pm
i have an old mowett, can anyone tell me where i can get a choke cable for it


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:23pm
what year is yours, mines identical but i have no idea, my email is mailto:kbergmann1002@yahoo.com - kbergmann1002@yahoo.com . thank you


Posted By: mowersman
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:39pm
Hi
on the side of the engine, just above the exhaust the will be three codes,
engine model engine type and engine number. it is the first two digits of the engine number that give the year


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:44pm
thank you, its a 72 i guess


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:45pm
need tires and choke cable, any ideas?


Posted By: mowersman
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:48pm
what carb has it got. most briggs dont have a choke cable but the throttle cable also operates the choke
as for tyres, what size are they and are they pnumatics or solid rubbers


Posted By: alan
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:31pm
Found some US adverts for the Mustang:
 
 


Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:59pm
_popupControl(); looks like they upped the anti with the 1979 model alan !!! it got the 8hp b&s engine !!!

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Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2010 at 6:54pm

I just bought an 8hp Mustang off e**y, seems to be in amazing condition, and a bargain price of 47!!!! I will add pics as soon as I get it and start to restore it. I can't believe I got it so cheap! I have been looking for ages and sometimes, don't ask me why, they go for silly money.



Posted By: pmackellow
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2010 at 7:04pm
Well done, 47 is not dear, good luck with the restoration !!

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Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2010 at 8:08pm
Thanks, I will add pics when I get it at the weekend (when I have sussed out how!)


Posted By: jonny7995
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2010 at 8:52pm
Well, I got the little Mustang home, 200 mile round trip took me 7 hours!!! (they shut the A14 - fantastic!).
I also saw another one on e**y (just like buses!), so I bid on it an won it, 77!!, so now I have 2.
They are both 8hp models with rear differentails. The first one was bought from a guy who actually races lawnmowers, and he showed me his racing mower. I must say that they are quite heavilly modified to race, although the engine has to stay original.
Anyway he had welded 2 short pieces of tube to the front axle to carry the front steering arms as they had worn with use. It looks like a good upgrade and I will probably do the same to the second Mustang when I  get it.
I also bought 2 litres of yellow Hammerite smooth paint which I intend to use on the bonnet/seat etc. I seems to be a reasonable match and is definately the easiest option as far as paint prep goes.
I now I said it already but I will put some pics on as soon as I can.
 
Jonny


Posted By: Deadeye
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2010 at 7:05am
I'm happy to see there is still interest in these mowers. It's spring, so I'm going to attempt to do something to mine. It's just sitting there.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 1:08am
I just found this on Craiglist.

https://post.craigslist.org/slc/S/atq/none/x/jcjMzLLfyBG30l6d/YvbXm


Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 8:55pm
Hi there jspurlock and welcome to the forum i tried to see you link but was unable to follow this !!! but can tell that its a advertising site for salt lake city and the surrounding areas maybe you can paste the pictures of the machine advertised !! i hope you enjoy your time on the forum and look forward to may more posts in the future !!!
regards kim

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Posted By: Chunk
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 2:16pm
Just got myself a Mustang too!  First post here too!
I think Alan will agree with me here, just got the thing for 0.99.  I kid you not. 

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=7&u=14857472">

Only problem is Im in Scotland, and its in the South of England.  I'll sort something out.  Always wanted one of these, but they always went for alot more than I wanted to pay.  This on the other hand went rediculously cheap.

Anyway, Im gonna restore it on the most part probably, but use go kart wheels and tyres instead.
 Its got a 5hp Briggs, which doesnt run.  Will do once Im done though.

That's all I gotta say right now, later guys!



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Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 2:26pm
Well done chunk thats a great buy !!! pity it so far away but im sure that you will get it sorted out somehow !!!! any way welcome to the forum and hope you keep it touch and updated on the progress of this machine !!!!
P.s. im based in Norfolk and im going to Brighton next week don,t know if this could be of use to you !!!

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Posted By: Chunk
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 2:43pm
Well, I have a friend of mine from youtube picking it up and storing it for me.  It just so happened that the mower was really close to him.  Im planning to go down to Gloucestershire to see some old friends in the summer, Was thinking of maybe going down to East Sussex then to pick it up.  Still a long long way though.  Anyone tried posting one of these?  I shouldnt think it would cost too much, then again it could be insane.

I was looking at putting a 3 speed onto it to.  Used 1st for cutting, and 2nd / 3rd for cruising along my lawn ;)  Cant wait to get my hands on it.

Thanks for your offer too, Although I still think it would be out of my way.  Appreciate it though!


Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 4:31pm
no worries i kinda guessed you would have it covered !!! good luck with the mustang !!!!

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Posted By: series1gem
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 6:49pm
try the pallet carriers usually about 45- 50

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Posted By: farmers boy 2
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 6:57pm
I would think that it would be the cheapest way !!!! especially with the price of diesel !!!!

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Posted By: series1gem
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 11:09pm
unless really local these days i just dont have time to run round the country so if its a long way off i say to people if they are unable to put it on a pallet i cant buy, sure sometimes you miss out but usually people will help, with a vechile thats big enough to move something like we collect think how soon you would use 50 worth of diesel? I know this only to well at the moment as i'm without a car scince it blew up and am using the works nissan cabstar, problem is its only doing about 20 mpg on the country lanes where i live- ouch!

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