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Ransomes MG40

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Topic: Ransomes MG40
Posted By: crawler
Subject: Ransomes MG40
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2013 at 11:51pm
After all but giving up hope of ever getting a MG40 we went last weekend and collected this. It had been brought in from France by the man who was selling it.



Getting lined up ready for loading on to trailer.



Once home and unloaded I refitted the implement lifting frame, though not until after the obligatory test drive round the garden.



The hydraulic cylinder is single acting and relies on the weight of the implement to help lower the frame.




From what I can gather the engine is a Sachs 600L. It starts easy enough without the need for any igniters.





Looking up the serial number in Brian Bells book on Ransomes I believe it was made in 1963.



The hydraulic controls look like they have been modified to be foot operated. The pedal rocks from side to side to raise and lower the tool frame.



My intentions at the moment are just to give it a really good clean and see how it comes up. As there is so much of the original paint left I think it would be a shame to fully repaint it.

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Rob



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Posted By: RansomesMG
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2013 at 7:15am
Oooo, now you've spurred me on to get some pictures of my one of here. It's very much the same model as yours! Interesting the small differences between our spec and the French ones I think - hydraulics etc.
Well done on the find.
Kind regards,
Nat.

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Ransomes MG Crawlers...... YES PLEASE!!


Posted By: lauber1
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2013 at 7:29am
Very nice looking crawler. Like to see some action shots after you get it all sorted out and going.

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restoring history, one bolt at a time.


Posted By: Franktonpaget
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2013 at 7:53am
These French sourced Ransome MG's seem to be appearing in some volume now , was France a big market for MG's  ?
 
It is a interesting point you make on why they did not use Ransome mounted implements, was it to meet some particular local requirement ? was it because of import levies it was advantageous to add locally produced attachments or was it just a cost thing there were a couple of similar size crawlers in the Saviac museum and a lot of small wheeled tractors which must have made it a competitive sector of the industry.
 
regards FP


Posted By: crawler
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2013 at 5:47pm
Hi Nat, I would love to see some photos of your MG40. Could you take a few shots showing what way the hydraulics are controlled on your machine?
Thanks for the comments Lauber1.
FP, France must have been an important enough market as Ransomes produced brochures in French. As for the way in which the implements are mounted, I recall seeing on the internet some other small ride on machines with a similar looking lifting frame. I wonder if Ransomes used this type of lifting frame to take advantage of readily available implements already used by various other machines in France?


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Rob


Posted By: Rusty Nuts
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 7:28am
Hello Rob
Clean looking MG.40 typical French spec. Looks like the engine may have come off a later tractor, hence the different colour. I do not know when the first Sachs engines were fitted to MGs, but in 1963 Drayton diesels were still being fitted. The air cleaner is the original Sachs type, this may mean that this engine was an early Ransomes fitting.
France was a major market and thousands of MGs exported there. I am told that the importers Perrier put the linkage on the tractors so that they could use the local implements.
Alastair


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Ransomes MG tractors, implements & literature.


Posted By: stimpy
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2013 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by Franktonpaget

These French sourced Ransome MG's seem to be appearing in some volume now , was France a big market for MG's  ?
 
 
I'd heard they were popular in France as they were ideal for vineyard work


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Ransomes MG6 1954


Posted By: crawler
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2013 at 12:07am
Hi Alastair, thanks for the info. I had wondered about the engine being a different colour. Going by the French transfers on the main body the red and blue colours look to be original. The engine definitely has been green, did Perrier perhaps fit diesel engines as an option? The Sachs engine seems to have been quite popular on a lot of smaller machines on the Continent.

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Rob


Posted By: crawler
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2013 at 12:51am

I had the MG40 at a show last weekend and on the final day it began to feel like the clutch was slipping. Nothing drastic but I was definitely having to give it more revs than I had needed to before, particularly when turning. I had given the whole machine a quick degrease and wash down the week previous to the show so was possible that some oil /grease had got washed in round the clutch assembly.

Only way to find out was to pull the engine.
Thankfully it's a straight forward process, first removed bumper, 4 bolts on the base plate and then disconnected the flexible coupling from the gearbox.
Add a couple of straps and bring in the engine crane.

Out it comes.
 
 
After a bit of frantic bech clearing, touchdown.
 
 
Inside of clutch and the shoes themselves seemed pretty clean, no sign of any oil or grease. That's leading me to believe that the pads on the shoes need replacing.
 
 
I will post some more pics in a new post in the general section regarding the clutch itself.
 
 
 
 


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Rob


Posted By: Burnsy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2013 at 1:08am
These are such cool little machines, does anyone know if many were exported to Australia?  I have not seen any around but we do have an implement bar sitting in the scrap yard at work so there must have been some.


Posted By: Ransomes256
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2013 at 7:32am
Burnsey,
Yes these were exported to Australia and I have a number of customers down under.  I am aware that they were used in opal mining and other unique areas apart from agriculture.  Melbourne Museum has one and some replies from Australian owners. (see their web site)
 
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collections/items/407363/crawler-tractor-ransomes-mg6-circa-1958
 
Regards
Neil


Posted By: Franktonpaget
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2013 at 8:02am
I saw a Ransome MG in a private collection on the Eyre Peninsula in South Australia 
As the chap collected otherwise nothing else than Twin City /Minneapolis Moline tractors, it looked sort of funny amongst these other very large tractors
 
regards FP 


Posted By: crawler
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2013 at 11:23am
I think its amazing how far and wide these little tractors got exported. I have a fold out brochure titled 'Ransomes 170 years service to world progress', in it it pictures 2 MGs. One is shown with a ramdozer in Antarctica and the other being used in Uganda.

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Rob



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